Deeming rate rip-off!

[dusty_rusty_2000]

Tangles, some of us have jobs to attend to and dole bludgers to support, but thank you for missing me. Your lack of comprehension skills are apparent yet again when you assume that I have a problem with "anyone" receiving Centrelink benefits. I have said many times in this thread that I am quite happy to provide benefits for those in genuine need.

I do think that perhaps you might be receiving the wrong Centrelink benefit. Surely you could scam a disability pension, using this thread as proof of diminished mental capacity?

I don't consider your points of view as starting an argument as you put it, merely a means for you to display your arrogance towards the hard working tax payers of this country.

[madcow71]

He has a small business, investments & still gets the dole? I think there is a fraud matter here. Stop whinging.

[Danny_b]

The issue that most people (myself included) appear to have with your gripe tangles, is that you are complaining that the government has increased interest rates, resulting in a short term small loss to yourself, at the same time while milking the system for all you can get out of it.

I personally don't have a problem with you receiving Centrelink, provided you are genuinely entitled to it (which if you're on Newstart, or unemployment, as long as you are genuinely searching for work). My issue is that you took a risk to try and get more money (by locking into a term deposit), which ultimately back-fired on you. Rather than being grateful of the Centrelink to provide supplementary income, you are complaining that your decision has cost you.

Many many people who make a decision to lock into a fixed rate (be it for borrowings, or savings) end up worse off. But tough, that's a risk you take when money is locked in.

[Thing]

'Am I unemployed? Am I on a pension? Am I self sufficient on Super or am I still working part-time in my small business?'

Who cares

Stop playing games - some of you're comments are offensive to people who apparently toiling to support you whilst you relax - as you put it

[Tangles]

When I first started this argument with rusty dusty, (who I note has disappeared) he/she was incensed by anyone receiving any social security benefit such as dole, pension, disability etc etc, I couldn't help embellish my argument to really take the proverbial out of him/her. You lot coming in like the tide unfortunately got caught up in it.

Am I unemployed? Am I on a pension? Am I self sufficient on Super or am I still working part-time in my small business?

[Thing]

With that attitude its not hard to see why Tangles remains unemployed

[Croman]

Tangles, that is pretty low. If you can do this and still look yourself in the mirror and feel good about what you see, than continue doing what you are doing.

[Caliope]

Tangles you had my sympathy initially as I know of many people through my work who do not have enough super to see them through retirement as in a lot of cases, it was no offered in their employment and they were led to believe their taxes would cover their pensions later in life. You lost me though with your statement

""I intend to claw back every possible tax dollar I have paid over many years"

That would have to be one of the most selfish comments I have heard in a long time. Tell me Tangles should we assume from your comment that you live in the bush in a humpy, never use electricity,running water,gas? That you have never owned a car,been sick and needed a hospital, never went to school or sent your kids to school?

I am kind of wondering what sort of job you had that enabled you to pay these taxes you want back if the above applies?

[Tangles]

Ahhh sticks and stones etc etc.

I have grown bored with this subject, and will grin while relaxing as you keep toiling to support me

Thanks

[derat]

Personally, i'd prefer if they partook of another free government service...


Employment placement.


Tangles if the idea of a lifestyle that is laziness, ineptitude, freeloading and not returning value for the money you take...

Why not consider a role in government. Plenty of failed businessman in there, its like a club. You will fit right in.

[Croman]

"I intend to claw back every possible tax dollar I have paid over many years"
Fine, go ahead, but please allow for the services the government has provide for you, as Dusty has said. But please allow for all the services, not just some, including roads, recreational facilities, security, education, etc, etc.

[dusty_rusty_2000]

It's not called using the system, it's called bludging off the system. Centrelink is there for people in genuine need, not for those that aren't smart enough to budget. Since you can't seem to figure that out, planning ahead involves ensuring one is self sufficient, either by working or living off their investments and/or super. You failed, so now you have your hand out, expecting the tax payers of this country to put food in your mouth because you have this "gimme" mentality. Then you have the nerve to whinge about losing $20/fortnight. If you are that destitute then maybe it's time to stop being a tight @ss and use some of that money you have stashed away.

Not all government employees suck the system dry, in fact, most are hard working, loyal employees, just as all dole recipients are not bludging off the tax payers. Most are hard working Aussies going through a rough time and are in dire straits with no other source of income for a short period of time. You don't fit this category.

So when you have clawed back every tax dollar you paid, will you then start living off your investments? Don't forget to subtract medical benefits and other government provided services when you calculate how much tax you feel you should be rewarded with whilst being a dole bludger.

[Tangles]

By planning ahead I take it you mean Superannuation?

Yes I have a very healthy Super thanks, that doesn't affect my dole, and will make arrangements for a comfortable allocated pension in a few months.

Gees it must rile you to have pensioners, the unemployed, disabled etc living off the government purse. In your gross ignorance you have chosen to ignore my comments about following the lead of public servants and politicians sucking the system dry. I intend to claw back every possible tax dollar I have paid over many years and for being a tax collector (GST) while in small business. Its called 'using the system'.

If you dont like it rusty dusty, TUFF! Get over it.

[dusty_rusty_2000]

I guess it must be hard to make ends meet, living off the dole and scabbing off the tax payers. A smarter person would have planned ahead while they were working and put enough money away to be self sufficient, not to mention, proud of being able to support themselves instead of expecting everything served on a silver platter. You could be living the lifestyle you are so desperately seeking but instead, you chose to be a dole bludger. Enough of the pathetic bleating about the system not paying you enough money. You made the choice, now live with it.

[Tangles]

rusty dusty your sarcasm and ill-informed comments are noted and just as quickly dismissed.

In this morning's press there is call for a pension overhaul, increasing concessions etc (that I currently receive) and AGAIN paid for by, I hope, your generous self.

Work longer dusty I could do with a raise